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Post by TimM on Sept 5, 2007 22:02:06 GMT
We'll be a t the Hotel Mercure on a nice industrial estate just outside Mulhouse on Thursday night but that might be a bit too far for you ?
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Post by Neil Sutton on Sept 5, 2007 22:37:01 GMT
Mulhouse, that will be 3 tanks of petrol !!!
Should be able to do Didcot to Mulhouse in a day, I'll check with the Caterham owner.
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Post by TopGun on Sept 6, 2007 10:07:27 GMT
For general info. My itinery is as follows : Wed 19 Home - nr. Piesport, Germany. Thu 20 Piesport - Interlaken, Switz. Fri 21 Interlaken - Davos. Sat 22 "The Italian Job". Sun 23 Bormio - Interlaken. Mon 24 Interlaken - nr. Piesport. Tue 25 Germany - Home. I do not intend to do any nightime driving (except for the last 'home' leg). I use tried and trusted routes to get to-and-from Switzerland. If there is anyone going in roughly the same direction on any leg, perhaps we could meet up ... Contact details : Throughout the holiday (i.e. outside the UK), I can be contacted on my Swiss mobile number: +41 79281 2074 - actually cheaper for ALL calls compared with any UK mobile operator. Especially useful if long, local (Swiss) calls need to be made (due to breakdown, etc.). Note : UK mobile operators charge you for both making and receiving calls routed through the UK !! See you there ! Kev.
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Post by TopGun on Sept 6, 2007 10:10:35 GMT
Some thoughts and info links for those finalising NTM3 : Motoring Requirements. The AA have a wealth of detailed information regarding driving requirements in all European countries - Spare bulbs, First Aid Kits, Documents, etc, etc. Items are either Recommended or Compulsory - I assume that if it is listed at all, take it with you/abide by it : www.theaa.com/motoring_advice/overseas/index.htmlPetrol. Petrol in Europe is cheapest in Luxembourg and Switzerland - approx. 75p/litre. North of Bormio, in the duty-free pricipality of Livigno, petrol is approx. 63p/litre. www.theaa.com/motoring_advice/fuel/index.htmlSwiss Motorway Vignette. With regard to the Swiss Motorway Vignette - it is very difficult to avoid having one. Entering Switzerland at any border crossing and trying to convince the border guards that you are not going to use motorways, will not go down too well. It is slightly cheaper to buy at the border than buying here (e.g. from the "Switzerland Travel Centre"). The 2007 vignette is valid 1 Dec 2006 - 31 Jan 2008 (i.e. valid for 14 months). Mountain Passes. For anyone still planning their NTM3 routes, there is a good site (my favourite of several) which details the status of the majority of alpine mountain passes (and includes links to webcams (where available)) : www.alpineroads.com/passstatus.phpIt is run by a couple of motorcycle riders, but is just as relevant for anyone who wants to "make adequate progress" on some "interesting" roads - how to get from A to B with as many twisty bits as possible to join up the tedious straight sections ! Some websites that give you pass status (open/closed) may also state a time range (usually for overnight closure to through traffic/local access only) - this DOES relate to the SUMMER opening period. Mains Adapters. Switzerland and Italy both have different mains connection systems to most other countries in Europe. Adapters for Switzerland are difficult to source outside Switzerland. My Swiss setup is as follows : multiway 13A block - 13A-to-Euro adapter - Euro-to-Swiss adapter. My Italian setup is : short 13A-socket-to-Italian-plug cable. This way, I can have several 13A devices plugged into 1 wall socket. UK shaver leads will NOT fit Euro shaver power outlets. UK pins are fatter and closer together. Suitable leads are available in the UK (online), but should also be available from any large electrical retail outlet in Europe. Check out : www.powercords.co.uk/standard.htm
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Post by Neil Sutton on Sept 6, 2007 20:14:57 GMT
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Post by Geoff F on Sept 6, 2007 22:34:25 GMT
Just a few points on TG's Motoring advice. Do we not all have everything in our pack up bags but: Do not have any Speed Trap Alerts or any Tell tale Suction Pad Marks on the Windscreen. This is a serious offence in CH. Keep to the speed limits. You get 10% and then any excess is in expensive increments. Italy requires bright safety vests 0n all Autostradas. It is illegal to carry a spare can of petrol. Driving/Fog lights are only permissible when visability is less than 50 metres. Not a serious offence but Police WILL stop you and check your car for anything else. light adaptors, GB label (CH is not EU so a GB on the Number plate is not legal) etc.etc. Vignette. Have 40 CHF to buy at border. Depending on the crossing, you may have to follow the lane with a Vignette/40CHF sign. Adapters. Swiss is a standard European 2 pin with an additional 3rd earth pin offset between them. A European 2 pin adaptor is sufficient. I carry battery chargers, computer, hair dryer, cool box transformer and clock with Swiss plugs plus a multi adaptor with the 3rd pin removed. Telephones' We use the car charger when we are on the move. Shavers. Use Gillette. Petrol. Off the main roads and at weekends, many are unmanned. They accept a card (many only CH) or notes so carry a few 10 and 20 CHF notes. Geoff F.
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Post by thecaterhamowner on Sept 10, 2007 23:35:31 GMT
Should be able to do Didcot to Mulhouse in a day, I'll check with the Caterham owner. Yep, doable in a day. Booked the hotel in both Davos and Bormio but nothing more at this stage. Am considering a day off around Bormio on the Sunday to conserve fuel, sleep, recover from beer.
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Post by patrick on Sept 11, 2007 8:50:56 GMT
Driving/Fog lights are only permissible when visability is less than 50 metres. Surely also the law in the UK but not enforced, resumably because their is no revenue opportunities in it for the Fuzz....
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Post by Geoff F on Sept 11, 2007 10:32:21 GMT
100 Yards in UK. Geoff F
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Post by Geoff F on Sept 12, 2007 20:41:24 GMT
See you in Zernez in 10 days time. Have chained the car down so that it cannot get away before 4 AM. Geoff F.
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Post by thecaterhamowner on Sept 12, 2007 21:42:44 GMT
Excellent!
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Post by John Ponting on Sept 13, 2007 21:59:36 GMT
Hope you all enjoy your trips. Before you go you might like to check out this link from 2 guys who have just cycled from Venice to London via Stelvio. Mountain pics start aqt page 8'ish. Hello all, Cycled 1058 miles, approx 6900 meters climbs in total, Ride time 102.50 hrs, Avg 10.49. This was from Venice to London which took 15 days.
Slidshow is on the link below: s95.photobucket.com/albums/l140/cycletouringjoe/ Scrolldown and look for sub Albums Choose Album Scroll to the right and below click on view as slideshow Press F11. When the show is over press F11 to resume toolbars.
From Bassano del Grappa, Vicenza Province, Veneto near Venice to Stelivo pass there is a162 miles tarmac cycle route with no traffic on it going to Spondigna. Which is at the base of the big climb to Stelivo pass. Here there is a campsite so you can try and attempt Stelivo pass without the extra gear and return for the night. This route makes it ideal for family rides and then return back towards Venice.
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Post by Simon Young on Sept 15, 2007 19:56:38 GMT
i hope everyone driving down has a great d
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Post by Simon Young on Sept 15, 2007 20:03:35 GMT
sorry for the above message lets hope you have a good journey and we can all talk about it over a beer safe journey simon ann
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Post by colintf on Sept 15, 2007 20:09:36 GMT
hope you all have an enjoyable safe trip!!
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