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Post by David M on Aug 18, 2007 16:37:12 GMT
It seems to me that you are planning to change the software that supports the Forum rather than generate (yet) another Forum. Reading through the thread, I am hard pressed to identify any benefits that will accrue to the humble users. Indeed it seems that any change will allow the “moderators” to more easily mess around with the posts of us humble users. This does not generate any huge excitement for me. In the absents of any benefits for me, I am afraid I can only view this as the techies playing with mud for their own amusement. Perhaps the “moderators” could make this seemingly pointless change more palatable my automatically moving users’ registration details from one form of forum software to the new, better censoring, software. I am sure this will be reported as a technical challenge that would be beyond the capability of NASA but suspect it is merely too tedious for the techies to contemplate. I am a reasonable man so will be happy to change my views if one (or more) of the “moderators” comes up with a cogent post of how this new software will make owning an MGF even more fun or morph the MGF Register into the well managed Saga of the MG community. Come on.... If the mods are saying that they can admin this site better (be it in any form!) then surely it is a good thing?? I think that they have raised enough reasons why they should do it! Let's remember that our regional reps. do a great job and spend enough time already organising things and checking posts as it is! I for one really appreciate what they do and would not expect them to one by one add our details to a new forum. I get loads out of belonging to this community/forum and it would be in MY interest (not theirs) to join then next generation forum!! ;D
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boypete
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Post by boypete on Aug 18, 2007 19:06:30 GMT
It's not a technical challenge to move the users data... It's physically impossible. Proboards will not let you, you can offer them money, first born children or the secret to immortality and they will not budge. Nothing on this board belongs to you or I or the Register, it's all ProBoards to do what they want with. Which has to be the best reason for a change. I use various other forums, and they are all technically superior, have more useful 'tweaks' and belong to the owner/committee etc... vBulletin/XMB........or similar would be great. Lets go for it
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Post by charless on Aug 20, 2007 13:24:13 GMT
I would vote yes to remove advertising, even if it is not wildly obtrusive at the moment. We have traders' alley and members' classifieds - they are fine. If the new system means more advertising with graphics that slow the downloading of screens and seem to load as a higher priority than the text, then I would vote no. What is proposed re advertising? I don't see how the archive could work - especially a logical index - which is the principal value of an archive, speedy access to relevant posts. So I shal sit on the fence until I am persuaded by a pull factor to vote and will accept any intervening outcome.
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Post by daved on Aug 20, 2007 15:16:39 GMT
A really good debate this one. Thanks for the info James and all you techies. Working in a sector where data protection is paramount I have been swayed to vote yes by the fact that we will own our own data.
Dave
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Post by PinkJay on Aug 21, 2007 20:50:00 GMT
I personally can't and have never seen any problems with this forum. So, as there are "SOO many forums, and so little time" I say - leave it as it is please.
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Post by Andie on Aug 21, 2007 21:16:12 GMT
I was originally for change...but now I am not. Leave it as it is.
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Post by James Curgenven on Aug 22, 2007 8:31:42 GMT
I personally can't and have never seen any problems with this forum. So, as there are "SOO many forums, and so little time" I say - leave it as it is please. Just to clarify the situation here, it's not "another" forum, it's a different forum, you won't be having to check this forum and another one. It seems from a few of the posts that people thing we'll be running another forum alongside this one. This one would just be a locked archive if you wanted to look at anything from the past. I was originally for change...but now I am not. Leave it as it is. Could you explain why please? By PM if you like, I'd just like to know the reasons people don't want to.
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Post by ianhunter on Aug 22, 2007 16:21:37 GMT
Can't see why it cannot be like the MG Owners Club site which has no moderation at all, it just's let it all hang out and the moaners can go back over their postings as can the members. For an open site we still see postings removed in order to protect the more delicate members who realise the error of their ways before its to late. After all this is the F Register site and we don't need to hear if Hon is OK and I understand your probs, there are other sites such as MF Rover .Org that more than cater for those individauls (and when they fall out we see them on here). Just my thoughts and no digs at individuals intended. ;D
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Post by Rich Stone on Aug 22, 2007 16:34:29 GMT
Don't forget that you have to be a member of the MGOC to post on their forum. So that's a kind of moderation in that nobody else can just come onto it and post what they like.
I think that the most important thing here is the point of data ownership. It really frightens me that all our details are not controlled by us and that proboards can do as they wish with it. That's enough to convince me we should be moving on...
Rich.
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Post by ianhunter on Aug 22, 2007 16:43:20 GMT
Surely everyone on this forum should/must be MGOC registered !!!
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Post by James Curgenven on Aug 22, 2007 16:48:56 GMT
I don't see why an MGCC forum should have a requirement of being a MGOC member first And no, you don't have to, the idea is that we attract people to post on the forum and then join the Club and thus the Register if they want to.
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Post by Rich Stone on Aug 22, 2007 16:53:45 GMT
Surely everyone on this forum should/must be MGOC registered !!! I take you meant MGCC! Not as it stands... Anyone can register! Rich.
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Post by ianhunter on Aug 22, 2007 17:03:11 GMT
Sorry mean't MGCC which should be a requirement for any posters, otherwise your attracting any old Tom, Dick and Harry !!!! ;D
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Post by PinkJay on Aug 22, 2007 18:13:38 GMT
I WAS a member of the MGCC - but not this year. Apart from the glorious magazines (which I never seem to have time to read, and when I do, they have more referals to other cars within the mark), I couldn't see a reason to part with the dosh for no other immediate benefits. I am also one of the top posters on this forum (over the last 18 or so months), so why should I not be allowed to post just because I choose NOT to be a member??? And I am not any old 'tom, dick or harry'
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Post by flook on Aug 22, 2007 18:23:50 GMT
It's not a technical challenge to move the users data... It's physically impossible. Proboards will not let you, you can offer them money, first born children or the secret to immortality and they will not budge. Nothing on this board belongs to you or I or the Register, it's all ProBoards to do what they want with. If that isn't a compelling enough reason for us to move then I don't know what is. At the end of the day all we have to do as users is to re-register - how big a job is that ? ......... gotta be at least 2 minutes out of your lifetime by sticking an e mail addy and your name in an input box [/quote Think you will find that proboards, like any other host, are limited by (a) good practice and (b) the data protection act Any rightly so, can you imagine the chaos if any forum mod on any board was at liberty to migrate account details and passwords to another forum, or indeed anywhere else Am I correct in my understanding that the intention is to host the forum on our own server?
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