MGCC Sweden, June 16 - 18 2006

[Adrian Clifford]

This annual event is shared by the regions, next year it is the turn of the South Centre, which is good for us, therefore with this in mind I am planning a visit to this event.

I don't think I need to emphasise the beauty of the area and the nature of the people you will meet on this event.

I'm sure over the months more will be written about this event and the options open to visitors, either drive or ferry, stay on after or come straight home.

I will start it off with this :

Dawn and I will drive to Holland to meet up with Daphne and Hajo, maybe others on the Wednesday (14th) we will meet up with anybody from Germany on the way, maybe Dieter, Andre and Stephen. At the Danish border Kjeld will meet us and take us across the Oresund bridge where Hakan will join us for the run to Helsingborg and on the Falkenberg for the Friday evening gathering and BBQ.

The road run is on Saturday and evening meal together, then on Sunday the final day of the event with the concours meeting.

This is the message from Hakan (our rep in Sweden) to give you an idea :

Distance.
We had 900 km one way from De Emhof (where the European event of the year was held back in June, it is close to Amsterdam) to Helsingborg with very good autobahn to go on so this is no problem. Falkenberg is about 90km's from Helsingborg.
When we go skiing in Italy we normally drive from Helsingborg to Ulm in
South Germany the first day and this is 1050 km
So distance 2000 km to Helsingborg from Germany is not really right?

Bridge cost is about SEK 200:- one way.(£14.00)
You pay cash or by card.

If you want to come to Helsingborg on Thursday night and we do some nice arrangements for you here a doubleroom in central hotel with safe parking
costs about SEK 1100:-/ doubleroom for 2 people including breakfast
The dinner here will cost you about 600:- / 2 persons incl.drinks

On Friday we drive north to Scandinavian MG-Meeting which will start friday night with some barbecue.We will do soem nice stops on the way.
I have been in contact with the people arranging this weekend and they are not finished with prices but they think the price will be SEK 2000:-/person.
In this price you get barbecue friday night,sleeping on hotel friday night and saturday night,breakfast saturday morning,rally saturday,lunch
saturday,dinner saturday night,breakfast sunday morning and please note no drinks including on friday and saturday night dinner
Here we must apply in january/february as there are maximum 100 cars who
can participate I will take care of all this details,no problems.

After concour de charme sunday afternoon we are free to do what you want to do.
You can go home via Denmark/Germany or you take ferry from Gothenburg to UK

Please consider above and I hope this can help you informing all MGF:s who wants to join the Scandinavian Tour 2006

All the best
Hakan

> Dear Adrian
> Travelling schedule done:
>
> Our suggestion as follows:
> 2006-06-14 18.00 Harwich-Esbjerg
> 2006-06-15 12.00 arrival Esbjerg and drive though Denmark and over the bridge and we will meet you on swedish side takes abt 6-7 hours
> Drive to Helsingborg and accomodation on small city hotel with guard for the cars abt SEK 1100:- /doubleroom/night incl.breakfast
> In the evening special Helsingborg arrangement!!
> 2006-06-16 Drive from Helsingborg - Falkenberg to be there in the afternoon 2006-06-17 Scandinavian MG-meeting and rally
> 2006-06-18 Concours etc abt 15.00 drive from Falkenberg
> cost for this arrangement not clear at moment
>
> here then is two alternatives on the way back:
> Departure Esbjerg on 2006-06-19 or 2006-06-21 both on 18.00
>
> In any case we will arrange nice tours and accomodation for good money.
> Please indicate if you prefer hotels or bed/breakfast
>
> Does this sound interesting to you???
>
> All the best
> Hakan >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

As you can see there is going to be a rush for places for this event, the opportunity will not be around for a number of years to go again without driving further into this large country to one of the other regions, so if you are interested please let me know so I can pass on your details to Hakan so our places can be reserved.

Lastly, at the moment £1 = 14 Swedish Kroner / 100 SEK = £7.07p

[Scarlet Fever]

Sounds excellent Adrian, as you know i'm pretty keen on this event so pencil me in mate.

[kasper]

Sounds tempting. We'll have to check for opportunities.

Used to drive from the south of the Netherlands to Kopenhagen airport (last exit before the bridge) in about 10 hours. It is all highway, don't forget lage parts of the German roads up are without speed limits

[Dutch DafneDil]

So I will ask Kasper to take care of the route from Holland north ;D

[Dieter Koennecke]

Hi,

was wrong with the location of the Sweden Event
I thought it will be much more north....
Now it looks quite near.
Can someone check this Autoroute Link ?
Distance is miles, setup with MGF/TF abilities (fuel costs and consumption). Language german only
www.mgfcar.de/event/Scandinavia/M26_Falkenberg_2.htm
Map visible ?

Question:
Where at the Denish boarder should we pass ?

I think this all could be done for a long weekend. Count me and Rosi in with interest. Meeting the group anywhere behind Hamburg would be good for us.
I don't think Andre will do it, cause he was keen in having a ride up to Norway later in August. (due to weather and his hols)
Dunno about Stephen. Optional we could meet here in Hersfeld (yellow mark) and go up the blue line to Hamburg together. (#3)

Discuss Map can get updated easy and put online.

[kasper]

Route is absolutely straightforward!

Best option is to cross the water at Kopenhagen. To be honest Arriving at Kopenhagen You'll be surpirsed about the sort time it takes to arrive in Sweden.

No problem in sending in some routes. I'll do that tonight or in the weekend!

[erikb]

This event has my attention to.... as I would love to visit the Scandinavian region one day.

However I don't know if the timing (for us) is that good. I'll keep it mind and start scheduling/counting/...

@dieter: yes the map is visible

[Adrian Clifford]

Dieter,
I think Andre picked up, from the Swedich MGCC site a picture of a previous event that was further up the country, maybe he assumed it was always held in the same place.

This is the reason I am promoting this event, if I go on any other year it will be a much longer drive (to one of the other regions) this is as close to us as you can get.

Many people here have said they would love to visit Scandinavia, this could be their best chance. Have a look at this picture of the Oresund bridge : www.bridgephoto.dk/search/details.php?id=1304

Kjeld and Hakan will take care of everything once we arrive from Germany. We can work out where to meet no problem.

Sounds like another Euro Raid plaque required.

Can we make this the International MGF Register event for 2006 ?

[kasper]

Looking at Dieter's map it is quite clear there is no problem in getting there. 1 item I would like to bring in:
there is an alternative: driving from Hambrug to Kolding thera passing Throug the island of Funen. this means more moterway in regards to the ferry crossing to Lolland. the bt between Lubeck and the ferry is a minor road. that might be quite busy in the holiday season.

From Enschede (Dutch - German border) A30 and the A1 are all non limited highways. Unfortunately it might be busy. But every now and then you can easily do about 130 miles + an hour
Hamburg is a crime passing in rush hours:(



The ferry is about as expensive as the immense bridge between Funen and Seeland.

[Adrian Clifford]

Michelin show the route as 728 miles Calais to Helsingborg and a shade over 12 hours. Two comfortable days for us I think.

[Dieter Koennecke]

No worries with school holidays in Germany while travelling through.
Hols here and aswell in Denmark start much later from 28th June onwards.
The Sweden Event is quite early.
(I fear the wheather may not be that great, though)

Hamburg Tunnel should be no problem cause it will get passed mid day (unless any mad accident and traffic jam happens)

[erikb]

Did someone mention the magic word Tunnel.... we go to Sweden I guess

[John Ponting]

I'm still looking at route alternatives.

Norfolk Lines to Dunkirk was OK this summer, a proper breakfast on the way out and a reasonable dinner on way back. More space than SpeedFerries (who I have used and will use again).

Also looking at Harwich to Hook of Holland to give a good start/finish to the trip.

DFDS Newcastle to Gothenburg is probably overkill as well as expensive.

[Adrian Clifford]

Quite right John, Dawn and I used Norfolk Lines for our trips this year, handy as they are Dunkerque is (slightly) the most northern of the French ports.

Ferrying to Gothenburg does rather defeat the object a bit, I'm not going without driving across the Oresund bridge and I am stopping off in Holland.

We return the following week for the European Event of the Year in Auverge, probably use the train or Speed Ferries for that.

[Tony Thompson]

Adrian,

Lynn and I are definitely keen to join this tour. We need to look at the scheduling / distances / costs and want to extend our trip by spending more time in Norway, maybe something like 10 days in total. Maybe drive one way and return by ferry from Esbjerg.

Dieter - you question the weather at ths time of the year. Is this from experience?