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Post by atyreman on Aug 25, 2007 21:24:14 GMT
Has anyone any ideas as to when the 'new' tf's will be seen ? it seems to have gone quiet after the ho-ha earlier this year.
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Post by Chris Tideswell on Aug 25, 2007 21:30:35 GMT
The first dealers have been appointed, the NAC-MG TF should be available around "the turn of the year" (presumably this year), the delay seems to be down to the fact the car has to type approved again as it’s considered a new car and not a continuation of the old F/TF line.
The new dealers should have more info in October.
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Post by John Ponting on Aug 26, 2007 8:00:04 GMT
and, of course, many of us will have seen the LE500 at Silverstone a few weeks ago.
It's not really that quiet - just not as quick as we, non car manufacturers, think it should be.
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Post by colintf on Aug 26, 2007 16:21:48 GMT
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Post by gazsuttonuk on Aug 28, 2007 5:34:31 GMT
Whats different about the front lights?1.What’s the difference between the old TF and this one? The popular body shape has remained but it has been given a complete new front end that provides a more aggressive look and lighting features have been installed.
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Post by Rich Stone on Aug 28, 2007 7:11:19 GMT
In this comment, they are reffering to the fact that the front bumper has been reshaped and the fog lights are now in integral part of the design, as opposed to an additional option.
HTH
Rich.
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Post by patrick on Aug 28, 2007 13:28:12 GMT
Over 2 years since NAC took over all the MGR production facilities at Longrbridge with all the help they could hope to buy and they still have only managed to churn out 2 or 3 cars that could probably been assembled in a week with bits left at Longbridge.
Compare and contrast with how quickly production of the 75 was moved from Cowley to Longbridge. I appreciate the distance between the factories is somewhat larger but surely they left all the equipement to manufacure the F in situ....
Surely a DEEPLY unimpressive result. The longer this goes on the more I worry about any serious product ever starting at Longbridge and the more convinced I become that NAC’s only real skill is churning out press releases promising “jam tomorrow”
I know SAIC have taken overand have moved production of press releases from Nanjing to Shanghai but still not an excuse for this mismanagement
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Post by Chris Tideswell on Aug 28, 2007 18:00:50 GMT
I don't think you can compare the moving of the R75 line with having to start car production from scratch, if you consider all NAC had was the line they then needed to move the body shell line over to Longbridge, set it up including replacing some of the presses that had already been sold of.
They then needed to secure the parts supply with new contracts and I understand that was easer said then done.
Then final get type approval for the car (as it's seen as new not a continuation) and carry on with development of the engine so that it will meet the latest EU emissions.
It could be argued that they should have started with a clean sheet of paper, but then we probably wouldn't have any new MG for 5 to 7 years.
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Post by patrick on Aug 28, 2007 19:23:12 GMT
Well during the Second World War the Americans could build a 36,000 carier (essex class) in 18 months. Over 2 years to not restart production of a largely unaltered car from the same factory is dire!
The Leyland boys had nearly finish the Euro IV and if the Chinese had not been so pathetically slow at restarting I am sure they could have continued production on the old type approval as merely continuation of the old car under new management......
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Post by steve on Aug 28, 2007 20:32:08 GMT
Well during the Second World War the Americans could build a 36,000 carier (essex class) in 18 months Patrick are you suggesting that we either need to declare war on somebody or to increase the new TF specification to include a kerb weight of 36,000 tons to expedite production ? ;D |
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Post by Chris Tideswell on Aug 28, 2007 21:38:34 GMT
They also had a few more then 130 people to do it.
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Post by markleonard on Aug 28, 2007 22:34:41 GMT
Well during the Second World War the Americans could build a 36,000 carier (essex class) in 18 months Patrick are you suggesting that we either need to declare war on somebody or to increase the new TF specification to include a kerb weight of 36,000 tons to expedite production ? ;D Would that not make the TF a target for Kamikaze MX's though Steve??.. ;D |
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Post by erikb on Aug 29, 2007 8:35:26 GMT
What's happening in China with the Chinese version of the TF (hving the 'original' front bumper) ? Is it allready available overthere ?
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Post by David A on Aug 29, 2007 17:22:00 GMT
Looking forward to the first posting on this forum from CHINA...?!
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Post by TimM on Aug 31, 2007 6:45:51 GMT
On 24th August the BBC reported that Chinese made MG cars will go on sale next month in China and will be priced between $23000 and $40000 .
It was not stated whether this included the TF, even though the accompanying photo showed a TF at the March launch, but the final paragraph stated that the " Chinese plant largely produces the MG7 series which is going on sale only in the domestic market"
As to when the TF will (re) appear in the Uk is anybody's guess !
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